
I’ve made a separate post out of the following comment, which was placed under the twitter post but really is a different subject:
While I consider the use of Ghetto slang such as the B-Slapping intellectually substandard in its inclusion in Opinion pages, I do not oppose its use as it gives us an understanding about the maturity of its users but if as indicated by the Gazette writer, that the term is humorous and non-offensive, than I must ask you as a member of the Editorial Board why the Gazette censors the B word when used by e-forum participants? If the publisher considers it offensive or denigrating when used by a reader should not the same censoring standard be applied to its employees? But then a pattern seems to have recently emerged here since that same writer can refer to some subscribers of the Gazette as slobs, a denigrating and uncivil reference, because they do not conform to his vociferous biases against smokers and junk foods eaters, while complaining in a separate opinion piece that some letters to the editor are uncivil. One gets the impression that a double standard is at play and would appreciate clarification as to your standards as a Member of the Editorial Board.
OK, I’ll take a shot at a response. I’ll also take a chance, and restate the two questions, more simply:
1. Why is it OK for a Gazette editorial to use the term “bitch-slapped” but not OK for visitors to gazette.com to use the same word when writing comments?
2. Where does The Gazette get off calling some subscribers slobs, and then complaining that some letters to the editor are uncivil?
Let’s start with the first question. It’s referring to an “Our View” opinion column published Jan. 30. In it, the argument is made that a group called ProgressNowAction is inconsistent when it criticizes Denver radio talker Jon Caldara. The radio host, referring to criticism Hillary Clinton received for a faux pas, asked pundit Ann Coulter if she thought Clinton “got bitch-slapped tonight,” and ProgressNowAction is claiming Caldara was out of line.
The opinion column asserts ProgressNowAction has not taken several other publications to task for using the same term. Thus, the column concludes, ProgressActionNow is guilty of selective outrage.
The column also claims that the term itself is “a common humorous slang.”
I won’t address the merits of the selective-outrage argument (that’s going on over here). The question posed by the reader is about something different: why the newspaper is free to print the term in an editorial and even pass it off as harmless yet forbid visitors to gazette.com to use the term.
As far as the editorial goes, it would be pretty impossible to discuss the issue at hand without using the phrase — the issue is the phrase itself. Sometimes you have to name the thing in order to discuss it, even if it isn’t something you’d bring up in polite company.
But if it’s so harmless, why forbid readers to use it? That’s a very good question. I happen to disagree with the column; I think the term is hurtful, and I can’t think of a circumstance in which I would regard it as funny. I certainly wouldn’t allow my kids to throw that phrase around in my house. And the reader is right: if we think it’s a harmless term, we should remove it from our automatic filters and let readers use it in their comments. We need to decide whether the term is something we want tossed around the comment boards, and if it isn’t, we need to stop considering it “a common humorous slang.” I’ll report back on that one.
Now, the second question:
We never did call anyone, especially our wonderful, intelligent subscribers, “slobs.” We did use the term in a different “Our View” column, published Jan. 31. That column was arguing against the idea of a state law that would require all Coloradans to purchase health insurance. Here’s the relevant paragraph:
Unfortunately, health insurance doesn’t work that way. Those who buy group health insurance, and try to minimize any chance that they’ll actually need it, aren’t rewarded the way safe drivers are. Insurance customers who don’t smoke, don’t food binge, and keep their weight and blood pressure in check are charged the same rates as those who smoke and drink and wallow in junk food. It forces healthy folks to subsidize slobs, which means their insurance is more burden than bargain.
I think it’s evident that the newspaper isn’t calling subscribers slobs. The column is making a contrast, for argument’s sake, between people who maintain their health, and those who willfully neglect it. It doesn’t even make the claim that being a slob is necessarily a bad thing, only that it’s a more costly health proposition.
UPDATE Re: “bitch-slapped” 2/6/08: The intent of the original opinion column was to point out that the term is regarded in some circles — including both the person being criticized and the people doing the criticizing — as common and humorous. It’s in that context that any judgment of the use of the term ought to be evaluated, the opinion column argued: If one side thinks the term is no big deal, why is it upset that some other person thinks the term is no big deal?
The column didn’t do much to point out that the Gazette does not share that casual regard for the term. I consider the term demeaning and hurtful, and so does our editorial board. Others might think it’s hip and funny, but we don’t agree.
For that reason, we will hold our online contributors to the same standard, and will continue to filter out the word from any comment a gazette.com visitor writes on our website.
Jeff, say what you will, as in “It doesn’t even make the claim that being a slob is necessarily a bad thing,” you are surely aware that the definition of the noun slob - “A person regarded as slovenly, crude, or obnoxious” does not imply a good thing, no matter what spin one may wish to use to defend the Opinion writer.
As to the B-slapping thing, the conservative radio utterer, his Gazette defender and the liberal critics that used the phrase did not display a level a maturity and sophistication one would expect in a civil and public dialog. At the bottom line, what benefit can the public derive from such an Opinion column? If hypocrisy is the issue, there are ample examples that can be derived from the conservative/liberal behaviors that do not necessitate bringing terms such as B-slapping into our homes to expose that same.
In any event, I thank you for your attempts to clarify these matters and fervently hope that future Opinion columns will reflect the same journalistic, literacy excellence and civility that is displayed in the reporting side of the Gazette.
Best regards,
Joseph, you’re absolutely right that when it comes to hypocrisy, there are ample examples on which to draw that don’t require dragging coarse language into the newspaper. We do need a little latitude; this isn’t the common room at All Souls. But if there are handy alternatives, we ought to make use of them over others that might offend some readers’ sensibilities.
And of course we’re all aware of the definition of slob and that it is a denigrating term. But there is a difference between writing “Jeff is a slob” and “some people are slobs.” The editorial did the latter, and if it’s denigrating, it’s also true: Some people are, in fact, slobs. More to the point of the editorial, it is the slobs of the world — the people who willfully neglect and worsen their own health (and there are such people) — who stand in contrast, from a risk-pool perspective, to the people who take measures to prevent having to seek health care. The editorial was examining what it considered to be potential inequities in an insurance system that would charge both groups equally. Could we have avoided the word? Of course. Did we need to? I don’t think so.
I’ve been reading this discussion with some interest. I keep rooting for The Gazette editorials and articles to be interesting, informative, enlightening, and thought-provoking for the topic raised, in order to justify the effort I expend reading them. What often happens to me is that I get distracted by a word, phrase or comment that seems gratuitously pejorative and tangential to the topic. “Slob” had that effect. Also, in today’s (or was it yesterday’s?) editorial, “deadbeat” had that effect.
Perhaps the intent was only to suggest that lenders find themselves having to show forbearance to some borrowers who lack the motivation to meet their obligations, but it seemed to tar with the same brush all borrowers who find themselves unable to keep up with payments for any reason. I have seen the claim in many pieces about the home mortgage situation that the majority of defaulters have suffered either a major medical event or a job loss that drastically changed their ability to pay, rather than a preponderance of people just not caring about the repayment.
Here are the dictionary definitions of “deadbeat” that I found:
A non-payer who doesn’t bother to say why.
One who does not pay one’s debts.
A lazy person; a loafer.
One who persistently fails to pay personal debts or expenses
The frequent use of “deadbeat” in the phrase “deadbeat dads” has had the effect of burning the worst connatations of the word into everyone’s brain.
I agree that words matter, and should be chosen with care. I also think that a writer can use a word intentionally in a way that detracts and distracts from his main message.